How To Put A Pipe Fence Together Without Welding

By phaux Appointment 06-25-2008 03:22

Someone wants me to build 100' of pipage fence for them and was wondering how much to charge for a gate and per foot and does this include the price of the metal? They want a track on top and ane on lesser with 4x4 welded to it, posts set 10ft apart. Will be using two iii/viii" oil field pipage. As well, a bit off topic from welding, but how do yous bosom through stone basis? I've used augers on regular ground for fence building, but this person has some rock where they would want the fence.

Past Idylwyld Date 06-25-2008 03:fifty

A lot of that erstwhile pipage will be magnetized.  Its funny to watch that arc dance.
If they came to me to do information technology on the side Id charge a flat hourly rate and they supply pipe and rods.
I just built my married woman a round pen.  I charged her a big glass of iced tea each hour.  Now she wants me to put up lights.  Im negotiating the price.
Consider a tractor with an auger.  Saved me a lot of fourth dimension and work.

I'd charge my wife a lot more a few glasses of iced tea.   You tin bet she'd pay the price....the negotiating process could be interesting, as well.  LOL  Tom

Past Idylwyld Appointment 06-26-2008 02:05

I'd charge my wife a lot more than a few spectacles of iced tea.   You can bet she'd pay the cost....the negotiating procedure could be interesting, likewise

I am "negotiating" for a brand spanking new 305D and nightly foot rubs.  I have been borrowing a welder.

Past phaux Appointment 06-25-2008 04:x

I figured that stuff was magnetized. Been making H braces for people with that stuff and when I grind the edges all the dust sticks to the ends, also as y'all said, the arc volition dance around sometimes, drives me mad. What causes it to be magnetized?

By sbcmweb Date 06-25-2008 04:15

I do some custom steel/iron fencing & gate work & accuse around $100 & up per linear foot. This can sometimes include materials on smaller diameter tubing & or short run jobs. This is a little different than what you are doing, but y'all will have a considerable amount of endeavor, cost & time into doing a fence like this. Are there vertical between the horizontals? All circular? If then, you're doing fish mouths on every single joint & total weld around every joint to preclude rust out. BIG work on round stock. I stay as far away from it every bit I tin. Cutting fish mouths out with a torch sucks, is deadening & very time consuming to do a practiced job. An ironworker is the only style to get with that.

Excavation the holes volition be a killer too, unless you rent a niggling beaver auger, or something like. A sideslip steer with an auger would be the best deal for 10+ holes 10" or meliorate in diameter. You won't be fighting a hand auger & end up feeling like you jumped in a cage with a super pissed off rhino at the end of the mean solar day either. :-) I ordinarily add $40+ a human foot for a consummate install in moderate circumstances. If it's a suck crap install, I stick it to 'em bigtime. If they know how much work it's going to be to put it in, they shouldn't have any problem paying you for it. A couple gates I have congenital have been in the $200 per linear human foot range, but were very intricate & labor intensive to build.

I would become the skinny on the materials, whether they are provided or not. The steel alone volition bury you if you take to buy it & are only getting, say $50 a human foot. If they want four square posts, maybe 3/xvi", they're going to be effectually ix' long to get below the frost line @ around a 5' tall fence. It'southward going to get expensive REAL fast, especially if it'south all new stock. Sounds to me like they are probably looking for it inexpensive. Tell them to quote effectually if they think $150+ a human foot, materials included is too loftier,(price your steel first though!) specially if you accept to get a skid steer in there to dig the holes. That'll probably soak yous for a few hundred hundred bucks later on damage waiver, tax & delivery. I don't know the local economy either. But, I sure as heck wouldn't be out in that location killing myself for over a calendar week fabbing information technology, So one more putting it up by myself only to make a one thousand after expenses. NO way! Skilful luck! S.W.

Past phaux Date 06-25-2008 05:01 Edited 06-25-2008 05:05

$100 per linear pes, and so $10,000 for 100ft of fence?! He's non supplying whatever materials.I take a place I tin go 2 three/8" iron pipe for $1.05 a foot which is what he wants used for posts, top and bottom runway. He wants 4x4 wire fence tacked up on the superlative and bottom rails. My just concern is busting through that stone. Fish mouths practice suck though, your correct on that. Information technology'southward just exterior of Dallas. As for frost line, it's Texas and so I'm not too worried about that, figured I'd bury'm 3ft deep each.

By Root Pass Date 06-25-2008 05:06 Edited 06-25-2008 05:12

I use a drill press and hole saw for fish mouths on hand rails. Works real well. I secure the work with an old Ridgid pipage clamp that I clench to the drill press table. Use the welding cost estimator someone posted before and see how that works out for y'all. That thing is cool.

http://world wide web.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?pid=104119;hl=welding%20cost

On the rock, those augers work existent well but you might want to plan for the extream in you lot estimate, like renting a jack hammer. We have lime rock and it busts up pretty easy for the most part only I don't know most where yous are.

I'chiliad glad someone is ennoying my cost estimator!

Past sbcmweb Engagement 06-26-2008 thirteen:49

That's a existent absurd tool. :-) Doing this fence stuff is never a straight up bargain. Too many varibles. Especially when the footing'due south real hard & there's Caliche. I only charge by the linear pes & extra for tricky installs. I could have used this on a bucket chore a while dorsum though. (Information technology didn't end up happening though!)

Cool stuff! South.W.

By 52lincoln Engagement 06-25-2008 05:41 Edited 06-25-2008 05:51

some people get ten dollars a hole,then whatever thursday material costs double it plus 10% for each run.P.S if i could i would use new pipe.its cheaper and a hell of allot  better to work with.
what i'm saying is if information technology cost 2.00 a ft.accuse ii.00 ft for each run of pipe,plus 10 -15 dollars for always pigsty you set a pole in.

By sbcmweb Engagement 06-25-2008 12:09

I wouldn't bear on it for cheap. You lot tin certainly work well inside that number. That was just a ballpark I use for wrought iron fence, here in Michigan. Since materials are much less than I would have thought, (much, much less) cutting a piece off that figure and get for information technology. Sure, that's big money, only later on you cut & cope all your pipe, rent an auger & kill yourself earthworks all twenty-four hours (been there, done that) or, rent an expensive skid steer or other expensive method to dig, drive out to & from the site a dozen times, pour cement, hiring labor (if you cull to exercise so) & buying materials (most likely up front) it'south going to exist a hell of a lot of work putting it in. Even if you can utilise a pigsty saw like R.P. mentioned doing the cope, it'due south still going to exist very time consuming & tiring moving 10' lengths of pipe around a drill press all day. From my experience, the driving around picking up materials & going to & from the job site are where yous really get squeezed. This toll in time & gas expense adds up fast & people don't realize all the logistics involved. I've gotten my rear handed to me on a few jobs. I've been at that place & I just let information technology laissez passer by if I'1000 not going to come out of it @ roughly $55 per hour.

People can say that's too much, but they're non going to be the one putting it in in 110+ caste weather! But something to call back about. Good luck! S.W.

Endeavor getting ahold of Southwest Equine at 580-276-4864 or world wide web.southwestequine.com, they're outa Marietta, OK.  Lonnie or Justin can claw you up with some 2 3/8 make new pipe that is used for the principal line sprinkler pipe in buildings.  I know it sounds funny just it's like schedule 40 I think, anyway information technology'southward a heck of a lot lighter and information technology'south brand new clean easy weldin pipe.  I know he's sells the heck outa that pipe in southern Oklahoma and northern Texas there.  They sell information technology by the pound, and I don't know what it's goin for now days and he carries all kinds of galvanized pipe as well.  Anyway just another outlet if ya need information technology.

Expect man if you accept to bid the job, try and use new pipe, non having to cut off the up-sets and not having to weld on former rusted magnetized pipe will salvage you time which means more money for you. Also are you putting physical around every postal service? The best way to do it is effigy upward what materials costs add ten%, and then approximate on your labor and what you want to get per hour within reason, Sometimes on modest jobs like that I have bid the job materials 10 2 + x%, material and all, but information technology doesn't sound like at that place is enough material price to that and you make any money. About 5 years ago I built 4500 feet of fence for a lady, it was posts, top rail, with internet wire stretched over it and I bid it at near $5.fifty per foot, and she supplied all the material.

two" h2o pipe is about 2 3/8 OD. If You are going to cope that with a hole saw the saw should turn about 150 RPM for practiced saw life. I cope pipe using a hole saw in a Bridgeport milling automobile because I don't have a pipe notcher for the ironworker, and don't need one often enough to justify building ane.

To slow to do it that fashion, dig your holes, cut your posts 8', set them in the hole level on a cord line, pour dry out concrete effectually them and add water to each hole, pull a cord at the height you desire, cut your saddles with a torch, lay your acme track in, tack information technology all together, then come back and weld out. the concrete volition set like that too, add plenty of water in the hole it hydrates.

texwelder: I was building a set up of handrailings, one i/iv" & ane" sch 40 pipage, I needed a bunch of equal length parts & copes that fit well. I could cope both ends acuratly in nether a minute, top & bottom lined upwards & fit, no grinding. You are probably better with a torch than I am, simply this was pretty quick.

that is fast, but how long will it take to cope 2 3/8 pipe?

By phaux Date 06-26-2008 04:17

Sounds about right. A thing nearly that dry out pouring the concrete though. I build fences with a neighbor and that'due south how he utilize to do it even though I had been told it was no good. He'd cascade the concrete in dry out then make full with water and mix it existent good with a stick. One day nosotros had to pull a post we had merely set, and depression behold half the concrete on the bottom was all the same all powder, even though we mixed information technology real good. I had also once talked to a guy who tore upward fences on the side. He said all the fences that the physical was poured that way; when they took up the posts years later on at that place'd yet be powdered concrete.

This is true, simply most people only put physical around every other posts, put information technology in every hole, and if the ground is real dry you lot will have that problem, because the basis will soak upward the h2o faster than the concrete will. And put enough of water, after it soaks up what y'all put in the starting time fourth dimension come back and add more before the top hardens over. And so a little physical effectually every post is better than some physical around every other post

By sbcmweb Appointment 06-26-2008 thirteen:50

NOW, THAT'S the Way to cope pipe!!! If you have a big enough end mill, you got the best, nigh accurate fit up y'all tin always imagine. Factory is the just style to get. Most kats I know don't have that luxury! Southward.W.

Steve, I used a 5/8 -eighteen commodities with a jam nut to hold a hole saw, no airplane pilot drill needed. When cut a partial cutting like that a hole saw cuts actually fast, just plunge downwardly with the quill like drilling a hole. The five/8 commodities is a Jacobs radial airplane engine creepo shaft bolt, they are  footing true to .625" then it holds well in the collet. To practice the 2nd end acuratley, I had a pipe that fits the 1st fishmouth clamped upward vertically equally a end. This gave me identical parts on the centerline spacing of the copes.

    If You use an endmill, the serated roughing cutters piece of work best, feed in to the side of the cutter rather than plunging.

By sbcmweb Date 06-27-2008 11:12

Heck yes! I take done the finish manufactory matter lots of times for smaller tubing. I don't have whatever bigger mills (like over one 3/4" though). Got any more of those aircraft bolts? I have some hole saws, but they are shanked & not very accurate Like I said before, I try to stay well away from round stuff though. S.W.

Steve, I can look around, some of them have a reduced diameter ground into the center, must have been something experimental, or the ones without were non finished. My Grandpop was a machinist at Jacobs from some time in the early '30s untill they closed in the mid '50s. some odds & ends came abode with Him.

By sbcmweb Appointment 06-28-2008 11:49

Cool! Thanks! S.Westward.

Past phaux Date 06-25-2008 22:02

So is that $ten/ft for the top rails and then $10/ft for the bottom rail, or only $10/ft all together? I'll probably tell him $2000 for the 100' of fence and gate so long as the rock is easy plenty to bosom through. I effigy all the metal will toll roughly $400, concrete $100, gas $100, helper $150.

By JHarlos Date 06-25-2008 23:49

I think you are cutting your cocky short.  2 years ago I built a argue and gates for a guy that has a dirt visitor.  With him suppling his skid steer, concrete, labor, and pipe he still paid me 2000.  All I had to do was weld and cope the pipe.  They did all the holes and pouring, plus he left one hand around to help me.

Past sbcmweb Appointment 06-25-2008 23:54

No doubt! If I was doing it, at minimum, $3500. Most likely more. I don't like to toll myself out of a task, but when you become to the end of the day & realize you could piece of work at Walmart for the same money.....Go effigy! If you got to rent a slip steer, concrete mixer, hire day labor plus all the good 'ol unexpected that always seems to happen, you'll exist screwed going likewise low. Yous tin can e'er negotiate a lower price. Kinda tough to get support! S.W.

y'all proverb you get 3500 dollars for 100ft of pipe fence

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 12:08

If I had to bulldoze effectually 50 miles or more than getting everything & going to the job, gas for the welder & truck, buy concrete, rent a mixer (or mix it all in a wheelbarrow, no thanks), rent a bobcat W/auger (or rent something else), buy the piping, cut, cope & weld it in pos in 110 degrees, hell yes! If there's Caliche under that dirt, you'll exist hiring someone to cut thru it, or be jackhammering it all day. That ground is probably going to be difficult, no dubiousness, merely I always bid everything out at worst example scenario. I've been there too many times with the logistics of a job costing you lot more than that the chore was even worth. I have never put a pipage style fence up & would not desire to rape someone on it, but I get paid for what I know also equally what I exercise. Pricing & hourly rate is different in that location too, I understand.

I charge effectually $100 a linear foot for wrought ornamental iron here. That will usually include materials, painting & installation, only that's a fiddling dissimilar than this. I can understand the simplicity on a pipe fence, just unless I round it all out to getting $50-55 per hour plus my drive fourth dimension, I'll just let it go on by. Likewise many hacks around here working for null, I can't afford to be i of them. Not with what I have invested in all my equipment & overhead. I don't have a 9-5 to fall back on. That changes the dynamic of the situation drastically. I've lost my tin on a few jobs I under bid & then ran into horrendous problems. My post well-nigh that scrap job was one perfect example. It wasn't even worth all the running & headaches for what niggling I got paid. Ended upwards paying them, darn near, by the time I was done. I , again understand this a unlike deal & I have never done information technology. I just wouldn't want to get big shaft on it if I underbid it. At least from my perspective. :-) S.West.

i bid  45.00 $ an hour for the 1 s  i practice they supply the pipe and they set the posts i cut them so they set them i supply rods rig gas  all i practise is fit and weld upward if i need to use a helper its 15.00 more  and 6x5 4 rail gate pipe hung
fabricated out of 2 three/8 pie  i charge 300.oo apiece  <hung>  when u accuse a flat hourly price its easier to figure when they get from two /38 rails  to a 4" post <more fourth dimension consuming to fit up> working on 3500 ft of pipe now but this works for
me , if i do the holes then its 25.00 a  pigsty and they replenish cement and piping

thank you
Mac

Past sbcmweb Appointment 06-26-2008 00:35

At present that sounds reasonable. Y'all get out of all the real hard labor of digging holes & setting posts. NO FUN! I too forgot to mention Caliche. Information technology was all over in Nevada & if it's under where the debate is going, (Dallas, TX.) yous're in for a long, hard job to get information technology out. Bigtime labor & tedious work to cut thru it. He idea I was crazy charging $100 a linear foot. I won't touch custom wrought iron fencing for whatsoever less here. That of course, also is painted & very ornate. I charge extra for hard, or far away installs. If I have to dig holes & make full the pipes with cement, the cost goes up also. But, I tell you lot flat out, you lot run into Caliche & you'll be wishing you hadn't e'er bid the job! South.Westward.

By sbcmweb Date 06-27-2008 12:11

Well put Kaye. It always ends upward happening similar that. I did a moderate scrap/demo job with a guy up in Grand Rapids a couple years agone. He bought a large lot of mechanism to fleck out of a closing factory.To make a long, horrendous story curt, he bit of WAAAY more than he chew. We spent nearly two weeks hauling bit out of there & I bet after logistics, gas, trailer rental, breakdowns & paying me, he barely bankrupt fifty-fifty. This was in the expressionless of winter as well & nosotros had 12" or better on the ground & more coming every twenty-four hours. I had to drive lxx mi. ane way to the site every day. He was easily 35 mi abroad. He failed to realize the gold dominion of any chore..... YOUR Time IS MONEY!!!!!!   EVERYTHING Y'all Movement, Touch on, EVERYWHERE YOU Bulldoze, EVERY Thought YOU Make, COSTS YOU Money!!!!!! Take it from many who, like you & I are cocky employed. If y'all don't add your time running around in to the equation, you're going to come upward short, every time.

Not to audio cocky righteous or anything, :-) but if someone has to get on a site like this to ask how much they should charge for a fence job similar this... That most probable means they practise not have much experience doing information technology & oasis't been down the route of "Paying Tom Sawyer to whitewash HIS fence!" If it was me...I would stay abroad from information technology!!!! S.W.

By KSellon Date 06-27-2008 xiv:41

whats the olf saying fast, cheap or skilful--- pick only 2.... Have pride in all that you practice, and realize if you accept the ability and take pride in information technology , its worth what you charge.

When someone is hiring you to build something similar a fence its because they do not accept the cognition, time or equipment to do it. For them to tool up to 1/2 a** do the aforementioned job would cost them ten times what you are going to charge. You don't want to low bid, because thats how y'all will be advertised by your customers " phone call this guy he's inexpensive". Then your stuck in a estrus.. JMO

before you get to far he's simply a immature guy,trying to get started.cut him some slack

I am not a young guy anymore and I however detest to judge & quote a job. If I was going to exercise a job similar this I would offer to work time & materials with the understanding that if subsequently a few days the client doesn't like what it is costing Him, the job stops, He pays for the fourth dimension & materials and there are no hard feelings. I am on My way, & He is on His own.

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 12:19 Edited 06-28-2008 12:21

I empathise that besides. I had to learn the difficult fashion when I got started & I don't mean to ever discourage anyone or anything like that. I merely don't want to see it discourage someone new to the field & effigy everything is like this & that "every weldor" that isn't doing commercial piping works for cheap. I've had my a** handed to me more than once when I was starting out, and it really made me feel that the only manner I was going to get a welding job is if I did it inexpensive. Afterwards a few bad experiences with really cheap, hard people, I didn't even desire to weld anymore. All I'1000 saying is be realistic, merely don't underpay yourself. If you lot're too cheap, people volition recall you're a hack. I'm not a hack & I don't piece of work for inexpensive. They don't dig that, they can call the next guy. 'Nuff said! :-)

I sympathize where you're coming from. :-) No harm meant! :-) Did you sell your shorty yet? Simply wondered. S.Westward.

By jrw159 Date 06-28-2008 xv:16

Due south.W.
  I exercise not await at your opinion of this project every bit discourageing or negative, but plain and uncomplicated REALITY. Sometimes though, ane needs to have ones a** handed to them and work for free to fully understand. I a corious to see how this works out. :-)

IMHO I meet way too many possible upshot'southward with this projection. Reddish FLAGS!!

Y'all know what they say about good, fast, and inexpensive. Pick two. LOL

jrw159

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 16:12

Yep. I couldn't agree more than. I sure didn't want to encounter similar that. I merely know from experience how those kind of jobs normally get. After getting canned by the Hack Master Supreme (Steve Smith, Eagle Enterprise) I made up my mind nearly working for cheap & pouring myself out to an employer & or a job. Unless the money is in that location, I have NO interest in even looking at it. Unfortunately, here in Michigan, there are a LOT of hacks working for $35 an hr & a lot of the people who run small businesses needing maintenance welding done on their stuff know this & wait everyone to work for that. I'LL GO Become A JOB BAGGING GROCERIES BEFORE I'LL WORK FOR THAT Hither DOING RIG Piece of work.

As the adage goes: "You go paid for what y'all know, non necessarily what you practise." I'm non a genius, but I'm a good weldor & fabricator. I'yard not going to give my work abroad. The repeat clients I accept know this & don't have to telephone call me to rework the stuff I do. In fact, some have called me to gear up piece of work done by some of the other, fifty-fifty higher priced hack shops in town. Just equally anything goes, you get what you pay for....Usually! S.W.

no I've only had one phone call on it.information technology must exist priced to high LOL!!!yea i hear ya I've underbid several jobs lost money in the end.that could exist a double edged sword though.yous better exist worth what your charging besides.wouldn't y'all agree.

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 xviii:28

You'll sell information technology. It's worth what you desire for information technology & it's really the same with machinery. Don't be giving it away. But.... Give them something GOOD if your gonna accuse skillful coin for it! Absolutely agree with you. If you are charging good money, you had ameliorate back information technology upward with skilful work. If you don't, y'all'll make a bad proper noun for yourself, end of story. S.W.

yea scb been there done that but my pricining work for me  i have tried per foot < then they alter from four rail to v or from 8 pes centers to 6 foot , plain jane debate posts to , 6" or 4" uprights> it just seems that at a hour rate its more flex able i make a decent scratch but dont wish to leave a bad sense of taste in any one and then my stuff is similar this  if you lot dont like the chore and then u pay for matl. and we part ways and i will damn sure make it known that nobody should work for this person because of this , but as well let me say that i run a 85 restored rig truck spent a lot of time with the old blue volume and have fabricated over the years about ever possoble template for pipe 4" to 10"  , two to four" ect. to well it does not accept that much time to fit up  this chore i am on will take  about xl to 60 hours to do so at  that its well-nigh 1800.00 to 2700.00 for this chore and about 300 for matl not including fuel i use proflame cut gas  its costs the same as acy. but i get five bottles of o2 to ane of it  .

Thanks all
Mac

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 sixteen:20

I agree. Hourly is the best way to become. Some people don't like doing it that way, simply it's the best protection for the guy doing the work. I attempt to meet $55/hr out of anything portable. Particularly if it involves screwing around with difficult installs & intensive manual labor. I effigy on the gates & panels I have built, that if I tin get $100/ft. I'll do alright & come up out alee either way. You take a skillful arrangement for this kind of work & if I was doing the aforementioned, I would readily adopt it. That'southward what'due south so cool nigh this site, yous go weldors from all over the country, giving you insight into how they do things. Cheers for the input. Steve.

Past jrw159 Date 06-26-2008 01:28

Get what yous are worth or stay home. This is a high risk job at best, from the sound of it.

If it is not benificial, allow information technology scroll on by.

jrw159

By Tommyjoking Date 06-28-2008 16:51 Edited 06-28-2008 sixteen:58

I agree that sounds like a job to bid hourly......if they take a definite amount of fencing etc.   You are guaranteed someone volition give them a hard bid if they talk enough people.    You might go called to prepare that job every bit well.   I like the x dollar a hole charge if there is enough of them to cover the cost of renting some equipment.......SQ. tube fencing use to be 22 bux a linear foot hither in the mid nineties + cost of material.  Pipe (heavy) fencing is a lot more work....I don't know bout that $100 a pes price.....but if it looks hard it will be difficult.     Have a way to fishmouth all the piping beforehand.....give them a quote with material  with you puttin in the holes and with them puttin in the holes  (concrete???????).  Don't cheat yourself $65 an hour + materials not counting if its *****y work...if it is adjust your charge per unit accordingly like $75 plus.  If they desire you to paint it, (drive the holes, fit and weld it) they are at a 85+ per foot rate because the material.

Slice of skilful advice:  Never be scared to ask for what information technology is worth, if they ain't willing to practise that, yous did not want the job anyway.   #2 People in general accept no respect for someone who is cheap to hire.

Practiced luck
Tommy

By sbcmweb Date 06-28-2008 17:54

"Piece of good advice:  Never be scared to ask for what it is worth, if they own't willing to do that, you did not want the chore anyhow.   #2 People in full general accept no respect for someone who is cheap to rent."

THAT is a very good piece of advice, Tommy. You may non be able to brand a radio out of a coconut, :-) but you know what y'all're talking about when it comes to doing piece of work cheap! :-)

Every bit far every bit doing ornamental gate piece of work @ $100/ft. that's a very unlike ballgame, from what I have learned in this postal service alone about pipage fence. I take never congenital a fence similar the one beingness discussed. Plainly a lot of piece of work, only still much less involved than an ornamental iron job. I can easily go 20+ hours into one big panel alone if it's a very detailed job with lots of torch cut, heating & hammer fourth dimension on the anvil. That'due south tedious, meticulous, involved work, no matter how you cut it. That'southward the kind of stuff I'g talking about getting $100+/ft for. I should have clarified that earlier. Some guys probably recall I'm crazy!

I would call up your formula is very good on this kind of work & the hourly labor, a very proficient rate to come out of it with some extra scratch on meridian. I e'er like to work T&M, simply a lot of folks around here aren't all too crazy almost information technology. Either way, as yous said....NEVER cut yourself short!! Good stuff! S.Due west.

""She came dwelling house concluding night rock N' rollin' drunk. She talked no sense, merely she sounded and then sweet though.." (Hateful Streak, Deep Purple, Perfect Strangers LP)

Steve, so y'all're a blacksmith besides?

Right on! I spent much of concluding week on the forge and anvil. A gal came in the store, looking for the antique shop next door. She looked around and asked if I could do a towel rack for her if she drew it upwards for me.

Unable to say that I couldn't do it, we agreed to a toll of 1200 bucks.

I lost my a## on information technology, cause I was chirapsia round stock for 2 days before I had a finished product. In these cases it sure is nice to do t&m, instead of bid.

Feels proficient at the end of the project to put on the patina and wax tho...........!

By sbcmweb Engagement 06-28-2008 18:24

I would have to fairly & respectfully to the fine art of smithing answer no to that, SD. I can do some uncomplicated stuff & have washed some vine & leafage by hand, only a true blacksmith'southward skills FAR exceed mine. I don't have a forge, I use a torch. Very express room in my shop at present! Most of the ornamental stuff I accept done has been unproblematic twists, cutout & hammered shapes & using tubing & pipe to do more than of a "decorative art" than true wrought iron. I did a gate for my mom that had several manus hammered leaves on information technology & I attached then to stems fabricated from round stock that I flattened out a little & curled up at the tops to represent flowers. Non true smithing, only it turned out actually nice. I did another gate with a bunch of cutting out letters & shapes. It was existent time consuming (I did it with a plasma cutter & ground them finished out by hand), but came out prissy. My easily shake a lot & got carpal tunnel in both. I would love to acquire some true 'smithing one day.

I am just blown away by the skill of a true 'smith. Real cool to hear you lot do information technology, Sourdough. :-) South.W.

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